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Messaggio del 14-12-2004 alle ore 20:19:46
we hate love, we love..handy-hate
la famiglia si e' riunita e ha dato spettacolo
musica magnifica
b.f.b. electro-porno-rokn'roll
da penico
lo sbokky ad okki chiusi pero'....
we hate love, we love..handy-hate
la famiglia si e' riunita e ha dato spettacolo
musica magnifica
b.f.b. electro-porno-rokn'roll
da penico
lo sbokky ad okki chiusi pero'....
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 21:26:24
Foto della serata: clicca qui
Da notare la qualità dei presenti. Altre foto per motivi di censura non le abbiamo messe.
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Editato il 21:27:15 12/12/2004 da mat3o3
Foto della serata: clicca qui
Da notare la qualità dei presenti. Altre foto per motivi di censura non le abbiamo messe.
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Editato il 21:27:15 12/12/2004 da mat3o3
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 20:38:17
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:54:56
per capire meglio Boy from Brazil:
A Psycho-Terrorist on a Rock-n-Roll Suicide Mission
Incredibly, contrary to reports in America's 'alternative' music press, the epicenter of Berlin's musical underground is not in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Nor, strangely enough, is it only located in Berlin based clubs like Maria Ostbahnhof, Bastard, Kaffee Burger or Bad Kleinen.
Ground zero, if you will, for the better half of Berlin's underground is a fifth floor walkup in Kreuzberg. Home to none other than Boy From Brazil, also known as Razi.
Back in 2000, Razi and his wife Nicole (of the electro-garage duo Electrocute), moved back to Berlin after spending some years in the squalor of New York City's Lower Eastside and New Orleans's Bywater district. And their Kreuzberg apartment was inadvertently transformed into a gathering place, a salon, for Berlin's musicians, artists, writers, filmmakers, nightclub strippers and renegade intellectuals. Music, ideas and an abundance of discussion are shared around Razi and Nicole's Formica top kitchen table. And out of this flow of information one can observe to some extent the real character and inspirational source for what is Berlin's new music scene.
Since the mid nineteen-nineties, Razi has been actively involved with various musical projects around the globe. He played bass with Stereo Total; was a member of the Digital Hardcore (DHR) project, Give Up; and fronted the Actionist trash-n-roll band, the Golden Showers. Additionally, his music is also informed by his extensive background in art. Razi has curated a number of exhibitions, including: the opening exhibition for the Museum of Pornographic Arts in Lausanne, Switzerland and Sex and Subversion...Forbidden Art in the Nineties at the Museum of Death in San Diego. He chronicles the details of his experience in the world of transgressive erotica in the Feral House publication, Apocalypse Culture 2.
Born in Germany, Razi is the fruit of a German mother and a Palestinian father. His parents -- as students of the influential thinker, Herbert Marcuse -- met in Frankfurt during the tumult of the sixty-eight generation's student rebellion. Later, his father, in the forefront of the struggle for Palestinian liberation, was an ambassador for the emerging state of Palestine. Razis earliest
childhood memories include playing with guns in Beirut's P.L.O. offices. Curiously, this experience predestined him for a life in rock-n-roll. Rock-n-roll provided him with the perfect soundtrack for the Middle-East conflict; just as it did for the soldiers of the Vietnam era.
As a consequence of his fathers embassy status, Razi had access to a broad range of cultural and political influences. When his father accepted an assignment in the former GDR (German Democratic Republic), for example, Razi could pass through the East/West borders without restriction. In what will prove one of the great unwritten musical histories of our times, this freedom enabled Razi to introduce punk rock to Socialist youth; thus forging a link with the youth cultures of the West with that of the East.
Razis sexual and political orientation, vividly reflected on this new CD, is best exemplified by a memory of his years in Switzerland. At an embassy party, he says he saw famed international terrorist, Carlos the Jackal making out with Deep Throat starlet, Linda Lovelace.
"In those days" Razi says, with a tinge of nostalgia, "Terrorists were jet setters. Real playboys. They had a lot of style. My parents entertained people like Jean-Luc Godard; Vanessa Redgrave, Jean Genet; dubious weapons dealers; and P.L.O. guerilla fighters. These were men who would come and visit my father in Geneva, bringing me little gifts like matchbox racing cars, and be dead the following week."
In the year 2001, Razi set out to make "music for people who don't exist--its the missing link between German electronic sequences and fifties rock-n-roll; sixties instrumentals; seventies porn soundtracks; French Pop nonchalance; disco-punk; Stoogian suicidal-noise soundtracks".
He explains his reason for the project this way.
"I always wanted to make the wrong kind of music with the right sounds or vice versa. And I have a need to transcend the embarrassment of ridicule of public exposure".
Obviously, the designation The Boys From Brazil is after the 1978 film starring Gregory Peck and Laurence Oliver. However, Razi, despite the last three letters of his name, is not one of Dr. Mengele's Austrian clones but is rather a citizen of Terry Gilliams imaginary Brazil ; thus music for people who don't exist.
While in the final stages of production and packaging, I sat down with Razi, the Boy from Brazil, for a short talk about his upcoming cd release Trash! Boom! Bang! on the German based label, Transsolar Records. Needless to say, Razi is a very funny guy.
He opened with a summation of his background: "I was born in Frankfurt; trained in Beirut; raised in Switzerland; schooled in East Germany; and initiated into music and rock-n-roll in New Orleans and New York city."
"You were trained in Beirut? What do you mean 'trained'?"
"I was in the P.L.O. training camps. There was civil war. As a Palestinian, it was necessary to undergo three months of weapons
training. I was an embassy brat and I had to show I was just as willing to get my hands dirty like everyone else. But they also had a lot of great record stores, too. So I listened to music. I knew this hippy guy who introduced me to all kinds of stuff, including the joys of life--everything except sex."
"I didn't escape the war through music, both were all around me. What was punk about Beirut was the anarchy. Everything was self regulated. You made up your own rules."
From his live performances, it's apparent one of Razis pop idols is Serge Gainsbourg. Against a digital video montage of porno films and sixties bikers clips by Israeli video artist Safy Sniper, Boy from Brazil, with all the charisma of the crooner he admires, steps off stage, handing out pocket sized vibrators while singing to the ladies swooning in the audience. So I ask him:
"Have you met Gainsbourg?"
"When I was thirteen, I was hanging out with my buddies in Switzerland and saw he was having a signing at a book store in a shopping mall so we just stood in line. He gave me an autograph on one of his cigarettes. I smoked it."
"Gainsbourg was sexy and mysterious. He was very controversial. But he was also an insane lyricist. Meeting him made sense late in life because I found my way back to him."
With Trash! Boom! Bang!, Razis intent is to inspire people to reconsider their concept of trash.
"It's the background noise of our culture" he says. "I find it significant like John Waters or Paul Morrisey films. In my personal library, I have quite a collection of adults only educational books on sex toys with wonderful titles like The Stimulators; American Sex Machines and The Spirit of Seventy-Sex, all of which turned out to be an inspiration for my lyrics. In Pocket Rocket Queen, for example, I simply copied out a verse from what was written on the back of a package of a vibrator I bought. The Manual of Unusual Sex Practices is probably my favorite source of inspiration. I find a fetish, use the weirdest examples and play with it until it rocks. Often, I just scavenge bits of lyrics I remember from other songs, anything--Robert Johnson; Wayne County; George Jones; Malcolm Lowry; Donald Goines--or more recent stuff that I don't recall by name. Sometimes the results are absurd. That makes me happy."
--Darius James, Berlin, 2003
Trash! Boom! Bang!: The Song List
oppure http://www.boyfrombrazil.com/index.html
per capire meglio Boy from Brazil:
A Psycho-Terrorist on a Rock-n-Roll Suicide Mission
Incredibly, contrary to reports in America's 'alternative' music press, the epicenter of Berlin's musical underground is not in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Nor, strangely enough, is it only located in Berlin based clubs like Maria Ostbahnhof, Bastard, Kaffee Burger or Bad Kleinen.
Ground zero, if you will, for the better half of Berlin's underground is a fifth floor walkup in Kreuzberg. Home to none other than Boy From Brazil, also known as Razi.
Back in 2000, Razi and his wife Nicole (of the electro-garage duo Electrocute), moved back to Berlin after spending some years in the squalor of New York City's Lower Eastside and New Orleans's Bywater district. And their Kreuzberg apartment was inadvertently transformed into a gathering place, a salon, for Berlin's musicians, artists, writers, filmmakers, nightclub strippers and renegade intellectuals. Music, ideas and an abundance of discussion are shared around Razi and Nicole's Formica top kitchen table. And out of this flow of information one can observe to some extent the real character and inspirational source for what is Berlin's new music scene.
Since the mid nineteen-nineties, Razi has been actively involved with various musical projects around the globe. He played bass with Stereo Total; was a member of the Digital Hardcore (DHR) project, Give Up; and fronted the Actionist trash-n-roll band, the Golden Showers. Additionally, his music is also informed by his extensive background in art. Razi has curated a number of exhibitions, including: the opening exhibition for the Museum of Pornographic Arts in Lausanne, Switzerland and Sex and Subversion...Forbidden Art in the Nineties at the Museum of Death in San Diego. He chronicles the details of his experience in the world of transgressive erotica in the Feral House publication, Apocalypse Culture 2.
Born in Germany, Razi is the fruit of a German mother and a Palestinian father. His parents -- as students of the influential thinker, Herbert Marcuse -- met in Frankfurt during the tumult of the sixty-eight generation's student rebellion. Later, his father, in the forefront of the struggle for Palestinian liberation, was an ambassador for the emerging state of Palestine. Razis earliest
childhood memories include playing with guns in Beirut's P.L.O. offices. Curiously, this experience predestined him for a life in rock-n-roll. Rock-n-roll provided him with the perfect soundtrack for the Middle-East conflict; just as it did for the soldiers of the Vietnam era.
As a consequence of his fathers embassy status, Razi had access to a broad range of cultural and political influences. When his father accepted an assignment in the former GDR (German Democratic Republic), for example, Razi could pass through the East/West borders without restriction. In what will prove one of the great unwritten musical histories of our times, this freedom enabled Razi to introduce punk rock to Socialist youth; thus forging a link with the youth cultures of the West with that of the East.
Razis sexual and political orientation, vividly reflected on this new CD, is best exemplified by a memory of his years in Switzerland. At an embassy party, he says he saw famed international terrorist, Carlos the Jackal making out with Deep Throat starlet, Linda Lovelace.
"In those days" Razi says, with a tinge of nostalgia, "Terrorists were jet setters. Real playboys. They had a lot of style. My parents entertained people like Jean-Luc Godard; Vanessa Redgrave, Jean Genet; dubious weapons dealers; and P.L.O. guerilla fighters. These were men who would come and visit my father in Geneva, bringing me little gifts like matchbox racing cars, and be dead the following week."
In the year 2001, Razi set out to make "music for people who don't exist--its the missing link between German electronic sequences and fifties rock-n-roll; sixties instrumentals; seventies porn soundtracks; French Pop nonchalance; disco-punk; Stoogian suicidal-noise soundtracks".
He explains his reason for the project this way.
"I always wanted to make the wrong kind of music with the right sounds or vice versa. And I have a need to transcend the embarrassment of ridicule of public exposure".
Obviously, the designation The Boys From Brazil is after the 1978 film starring Gregory Peck and Laurence Oliver. However, Razi, despite the last three letters of his name, is not one of Dr. Mengele's Austrian clones but is rather a citizen of Terry Gilliams imaginary Brazil ; thus music for people who don't exist.
While in the final stages of production and packaging, I sat down with Razi, the Boy from Brazil, for a short talk about his upcoming cd release Trash! Boom! Bang! on the German based label, Transsolar Records. Needless to say, Razi is a very funny guy.
He opened with a summation of his background: "I was born in Frankfurt; trained in Beirut; raised in Switzerland; schooled in East Germany; and initiated into music and rock-n-roll in New Orleans and New York city."
"You were trained in Beirut? What do you mean 'trained'?"
"I was in the P.L.O. training camps. There was civil war. As a Palestinian, it was necessary to undergo three months of weapons
training. I was an embassy brat and I had to show I was just as willing to get my hands dirty like everyone else. But they also had a lot of great record stores, too. So I listened to music. I knew this hippy guy who introduced me to all kinds of stuff, including the joys of life--everything except sex."
"I didn't escape the war through music, both were all around me. What was punk about Beirut was the anarchy. Everything was self regulated. You made up your own rules."
From his live performances, it's apparent one of Razis pop idols is Serge Gainsbourg. Against a digital video montage of porno films and sixties bikers clips by Israeli video artist Safy Sniper, Boy from Brazil, with all the charisma of the crooner he admires, steps off stage, handing out pocket sized vibrators while singing to the ladies swooning in the audience. So I ask him:
"Have you met Gainsbourg?"
"When I was thirteen, I was hanging out with my buddies in Switzerland and saw he was having a signing at a book store in a shopping mall so we just stood in line. He gave me an autograph on one of his cigarettes. I smoked it."
"Gainsbourg was sexy and mysterious. He was very controversial. But he was also an insane lyricist. Meeting him made sense late in life because I found my way back to him."
With Trash! Boom! Bang!, Razis intent is to inspire people to reconsider their concept of trash.
"It's the background noise of our culture" he says. "I find it significant like John Waters or Paul Morrisey films. In my personal library, I have quite a collection of adults only educational books on sex toys with wonderful titles like The Stimulators; American Sex Machines and The Spirit of Seventy-Sex, all of which turned out to be an inspiration for my lyrics. In Pocket Rocket Queen, for example, I simply copied out a verse from what was written on the back of a package of a vibrator I bought. The Manual of Unusual Sex Practices is probably my favorite source of inspiration. I find a fetish, use the weirdest examples and play with it until it rocks. Often, I just scavenge bits of lyrics I remember from other songs, anything--Robert Johnson; Wayne County; George Jones; Malcolm Lowry; Donald Goines--or more recent stuff that I don't recall by name. Sometimes the results are absurd. That makes me happy."
--Darius James, Berlin, 2003
Trash! Boom! Bang!: The Song List
oppure http://www.boyfrombrazil.com/index.html
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:47:59
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Editato il 18:48:39 12/12/2004 da briskio
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:28:38
per le foto?
per le foto?
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:28:18
EXTREME FOR PRESIDENT troppo Dandy per essere umano!!CLONATELO PER FAVORE!!!Cmq il resto delle fammiglia era al completo ANCHE LE PECORE NERE!Il segno corporativo resta .....Laprox SUPER MAT intollerant performance il 28-12
EXTREME FOR PRESIDENT troppo Dandy per essere umano!!CLONATELO PER FAVORE!!!Cmq il resto delle fammiglia era al completo ANCHE LE PECORE NERE!Il segno corporativo resta .....Laprox SUPER MAT intollerant performance il 28-12
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:24:44
EXTREME FOR PRESIDENT troppo Dandy per essere umano!!CLONATELO PER FAVORE!!!Cmq il resto delle famiglia era al completo ANCHE LE PECORE NERE!Il segno corporativo resta .....Laprox SUPER MAT intollerant performance il 28-12 !!
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Editato il 18:27:00 12/12/2004 da briskio
EXTREME FOR PRESIDENT troppo Dandy per essere umano!!CLONATELO PER FAVORE!!!Cmq il resto delle famiglia era al completo ANCHE LE PECORE NERE!Il segno corporativo resta .....Laprox SUPER MAT intollerant performance il 28-12 !!
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Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 18:17:16
MUSICA per tutti con un'okkio verso il nuovo senza strafare ne essere scontati ELVIS vive ancora!
MUSICA per tutti con un'okkio verso il nuovo senza strafare ne essere scontati ELVIS vive ancora!
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 17:54:49
BEN DETTO IL SUONO DELLA NUOVA BERLINO ERA A PESCARA BOY from BRAZIL TROPPO !!!!STA MANE NON MI RIUSCIVO A CAPIRE DOVE ERO......... UN QUALCOSA DI VERAMENTE NUOVO
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BEN DETTO IL SUONO DELLA NUOVA BERLINO ERA A PESCARA BOY from BRAZIL TROPPO !!!!STA MANE NON MI RIUSCIVO A CAPIRE DOVE ERO......... UN QUALCOSA DI VERAMENTE NUOVO
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Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 11:48:50
Ah! dimenticavo... c'era qualcuno che ad un certo punto della serata domandava "Ma siamo a pescara?..."
Ah! dimenticavo... c'era qualcuno che ad un certo punto della serata domandava "Ma siamo a pescara?..."
Messaggio del 12-12-2004 alle ore 11:42:00
DEGENERATO!!!
Seratone riuscito alla grande.
Partiamo da principio.
Boy from brasil dirompente, soprattutto scenicamente per i video e il look. Non trovo parole per definirlo.
Briskio come sempre una situazione all'altezza, complimenti per la deco e per l'organizzazione. Il tuo liveset ha funzionato alla grande in pista. C'erano 2-3 pezzi che hanno fatto muovere i sederini vorticosamente, provare a fermarsi era un impresa.
Ciliegina sulla torta: l'omino ci ha deliziato con le sue prelibatezze new-wave, electro/punk, techno con spruzzi trance. Non ha fatto rimpiangere assolutamente altri dancefloor. Si è fatto riconescere, e si è superato, eh bè, goduria infinita.
L'affluenza è stata molto positiva, cosa più importante ha gradito il concetto e se l'è gustato tutto. Gente positiva e col sorriso.
Come dire, dark e divertimento.
Mi dispiace per chi non c'era... ma ve le sete persssss!
A presto le foto su hatecorporation...?!?!?!
Buon divertimento.
DEGENERATO!!!
Seratone riuscito alla grande.
Partiamo da principio.
Boy from brasil dirompente, soprattutto scenicamente per i video e il look. Non trovo parole per definirlo.
Briskio come sempre una situazione all'altezza, complimenti per la deco e per l'organizzazione. Il tuo liveset ha funzionato alla grande in pista. C'erano 2-3 pezzi che hanno fatto muovere i sederini vorticosamente, provare a fermarsi era un impresa.
Ciliegina sulla torta: l'omino ci ha deliziato con le sue prelibatezze new-wave, electro/punk, techno con spruzzi trance. Non ha fatto rimpiangere assolutamente altri dancefloor. Si è fatto riconescere, e si è superato, eh bè, goduria infinita.
L'affluenza è stata molto positiva, cosa più importante ha gradito il concetto e se l'è gustato tutto. Gente positiva e col sorriso.
Come dire, dark e divertimento.
Mi dispiace per chi non c'era... ma ve le sete persssss!
A presto le foto su hatecorporation...?!?!?!
Buon divertimento.
Messaggio del 10-12-2004 alle ore 14:43:27
COMA IRREVERSIBILE!!!FISCH IN WASSER!!
COMA IRREVERSIBILE!!!FISCH IN WASSER!!
Messaggio del 08-12-2004 alle ore 22:08:23
degeneriamola piuttosto
degeneriamola piuttosto
Messaggio del 08-12-2004 alle ore 22:04:13
basta bere....distruggiamo pescara
basta bere....distruggiamo pescara
Messaggio del 07-12-2004 alle ore 19:42:54
Messaggio del 07-12-2004 alle ore 15:38:55
line up:
OPENING :A.Ferrara (new Wave 80)
perfomance direttamente da Berlino BOY TO BRAZIL electro punk rockers
live Andy hate vs dj Set Mark(arsch-Ebm-Techno)
in fine mr Siro hard beat contest
LE STREGHE CI PROTEGGONO
C/o zone club (ex bacab)
line up:
OPENING :A.Ferrara (new Wave 80)
perfomance direttamente da Berlino BOY TO BRAZIL electro punk rockers
live Andy hate vs dj Set Mark(arsch-Ebm-Techno)
in fine mr Siro hard beat contest
LE STREGHE CI PROTEGGONO
C/o zone club (ex bacab)
Messaggio del 07-12-2004 alle ore 15:02:09
LEI NON DEGENERA MAI!!!!!
LEI NON DEGENERA MAI!!!!!
Messaggio del 07-12-2004 alle ore 15:00:47
Messaggio del 03-12-2004 alle ore 00:41:04
hi hi Super section dalle 03 in poi una New Entry nella famiglia baciamo le mani!Mizzica!!!!Picciotti sapete già tutto
hi hi Super section dalle 03 in poi una New Entry nella famiglia baciamo le mani!Mizzica!!!!Picciotti sapete già tutto
Messaggio del 01-12-2004 alle ore 16:07:45
ho saputo che ci sarà un'altra performance a sorpresa
, qualche delucidazione?
ho saputo che ci sarà un'altra performance a sorpresa
, qualche delucidazione?
Messaggio del 27-11-2004 alle ore 21:21:26
Messaggio del 27-11-2004 alle ore 11:42:38
sadomasokismo, pvc & andy n'roll
sadomasokismo, pvc & andy n'roll
Messaggio del 25-11-2004 alle ore 12:25:07
la 909 va bene?
la 909 va bene?
Messaggio del 23-11-2004 alle ore 14:48:54
In Panik!
In Panik!
Messaggio del 23-11-2004 alle ore 14:14:51
Ti aspettiamo ISLAMICAMENTE...
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Editato il 14:28:41 23/11/2004 da mat3o3
Ti aspettiamo ISLAMICAMENTE...
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Editato il 14:28:41 23/11/2004 da mat3o3
Messaggio del 23-11-2004 alle ore 09:37:03
questa volta vengo...non ci sono cazzi! Oleeeeeeeeeee!! Mi porto i mutandoni in latex pure io! I superpippo della Diva Futura!
questa volta vengo...non ci sono cazzi! Oleeeeeeeeeee!! Mi porto i mutandoni in latex pure io! I superpippo della Diva Futura!
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 15:59:59
mat call me!
mat call me!
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 01:59:07
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 01:58:24
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!! almeno que mi funziona
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 01:56:05
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!! almeno que mi funziona
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 01:26:32
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!! almeno que mi funziona
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Messaggio del 20-11-2004 alle ore 01:24:32
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!! almeno que mi funziona
Porta Extreme in versione PVC!!
almeno que mi funziona
Messaggio del 19-11-2004 alle ore 19:18:27
attuale? No
avanti? No
oltre? è dire poco
La trib-o-xunione è avvisata.
Shock per masse intelligenti.
Io ci sto.
attuale? No
avanti? No
oltre? è dire poco
La trib-o-xunione è avvisata.
Shock per masse intelligenti.
Io ci sto.
Messaggio del 19-11-2004 alle ore 16:12:55
sabato 11 dicembre 2004
Zone Club Pescara
Boy From Brazil + Hate corporation
sabato 11 dicembre 2004
Zone Club Pescara
Boy From Brazil + Hate corporation
Messaggio del 19-11-2004 alle ore 12:52:41
Boy To BRAZIL ! Ex Stero total collaboratore delle New Wave riot girl,one man Show performance tra i Sucide Ed ElvisPREPARATEVI! NiChilismo in latex e sesso Tossico,ModerNiSmo BeRLiNesE e Sozzura Newyorkese!!!!NaTURALMENTE Supportato Dalla Famiglia ODIO !!!
Boy To BRAZIL ! Ex Stero total collaboratore delle New Wave riot girl,one man Show performance tra i Sucide Ed ElvisPREPARATEVI! NiChilismo in latex e sesso Tossico,ModerNiSmo BeRLiNesE e Sozzura Newyorkese!!!!NaTURALMENTE Supportato Dalla Famiglia ODIO !!!
Messaggio del 19-11-2004 alle ore 12:43:10
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